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Question: What type of client do you use to connect to AL?

Telnet client  
  1 (7.1%)
Java client on the Accursed Lands web site  
  0 (0%)
A MUD client on my computer  
  13 (92.8%)



Total votes: 14
« Created by: Dr. Fragment on: 05/04/10 at 10:38:45 »

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What type of client do you use?
05/04/10 at 10:38:45
 
The purpose of this pool is to see how many people use the java client on AL's webpage.
 
If you use two or even all three types of clients, tell us how much of each. For example: 80% of time a MUD client on my computer, 20% Java client on the AL's webpage.
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Re: What type of client do you use?
Reply #1 - 05/05/10 at 09:27:34
 
i use mushclient at least 80% of the time, but being in the army i dont always have my computer in front of me, so i will use javatelnet whenever i get a chance to get online without my computer
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Reply #2 - 05/07/10 at 18:12:20
 
I will use mush as it allows me great flexibility with what i do on the mud. however in absence of my own computer i prefer good old telnet. (though having to remember how to work without aliases can be a little bit of a chore when you've used them for so long)
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Reply #3 - 05/07/10 at 18:34:06
 
I'm a MUSH guy myself.  Been steered away by the applet 'cause of the lack of functionality but been that way for a decade now Smiley
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Reply #4 - 05/15/10 at 02:50:54
 
When I played, I used zMUD or cMUD, because some of the things on this game are so poorly coded that you basically have to run a script to get them done or you'd go crazy.
 
E.g. lighting a fire, repairing weapons/armor, crafting
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Reply #5 - 05/15/10 at 22:30:37
 
You don't need a script, nor things are poorly coded, perhaps some could use a retouch. But to get on topic: One of the things that come to mind, among others, is that the Java client could use a command separator. The most common separator is ;  
 
For example, if your char usually carries the fire making kit box in his backpack along with his torch, and he's in a forest with no fire around, you could use something like this:
 
1. drop all;open pack;take torch from pack;take box from pack;put down held items;open box;get pine needles;put down needles;take stone from box;take blade from box;light needles
 
now the that the needles are burning:  
2. drop all;take torch;light torch with needles
 
and to clean the mess your char did:  
3. put down torch;dim needles;take blade;take stone;put held items in box;take box;close box;put box in pack;close pack;take torch; :smiles and blinks a few times at ~torch
 
Three pasted lines and there's light in a less than seconds  Cheesy
 Wink Also note that  "open [container]" is not necessary if you have the commonsense feature turned on.
Yes, the Java client, or any other, could indeed use the commands separator feature. Smiley
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Reply #6 - 05/16/10 at 00:49:50
 
Personally, I prefer \ for separating commands so I can freely use ; in speech and speech added smileys. Wink
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Reply #7 - 05/16/10 at 01:29:04
 
In what universe is it good design to require 20-odd commands to light a fire?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #8 - 05/16/10 at 10:12:14
 
Quote from Energy on 05/16/10 at 00:49:50:
Personally, I prefer \ for separating commands so I can freely use ; in speech and speech added smileys. ;)

 
There's a solution for this. In case your command separator is ; and you want to treat it as part of the sending text, you put the '\' in front of it. Example: 'those are some nice moves \;)   which translates to: You wink and say, "Those are some nice moves."
 
'those are some nice moves;smile translates to:  
You say "Those are some nice moves."
You smile.
 
Now in case you want to treat the \ as sending text, you just use double \\
 
 
Quote from Synthesis on 05/16/10 at 01:29:04:
In what universe is it good design to require 20-odd commands to light a fire?  ::)

 
These commands are basic that every newbie should know in order to survive (there are things lurking in the dark), you just need to put them together logically. When I introduced my friend to the game I was surprised how he made fire with no effort, and it was his first time playing a mud.
Accursed Lands cannot affort to simpfly fire making without hurting its level of realism. While you may see it as a bad design, I see it as pure logic. Especially considering Accursed Lands featuring a post apocalyptic world, where it can be hard for your char even to survive when not within the walls of a city.  
 
Please note that from now on, offtopic disccussions and posts, will be moved accordingly.
You may continue the discussion in Frustrations
 
(A personal note to you, Synthesis: There are always better ways of doing things. If you have any good ideas on how to change, for example fire making, without hurting the level of realism, please share. We're open for discussions, fresh ideas that would make Accursed Lands more user-syntax friendly. In the meanwhile, try to help newbies on their way to mastering AL. I wish you all well.)
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Reply #9 - 05/16/10 at 10:34:03
 
I'd shudder playing a game where all you had to do is "light fire" and it just magically happened.  That's why we evolved into a reasonable scale of command parsing away from simple-minded functions.
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Reply #10 - 07/23/10 at 20:50:22
 
Mudlet: http://www.mudlet.org on Mac OSX + custom sounds + sound triggers (really adds to the atmosphere, I so wish there was a simple weather system implemented on AL)
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Reply #11 - 07/23/10 at 21:01:14
 
Looks great. I've been meaning to try it, but I forgot it aftwards.
1+ for portability: Mac, Windows, Linux Smiley
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Reply #12 - 07/25/10 at 04:30:24
 
Btw. Screenshots (latest Mudlet + my custom colour triggers):
 

 
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